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's talk about some of the implications before we get to the blaming. the nato commission is being held up at this point, right, for general allen. they're still deciding if there's an implication for him in this. >> absolutely as a four-star you have a limited amount of time where you can serve in between positions and if you don't get confirmed which the nato position requires senate confirmation you revert back to the lower grade, so there's a real personal incentive to get this thing going as quickly as possible so he can move on to his next job and that clearly is in doubt. >> we talked about remember the 30,000 pages of documents which jill kelley tells howie, sunny, it's more like a couple hundred so that to me seems to be here and here and i get there's a difference between 300 or 400 e-mails and pages of documents. it's a little bit apples and oranges but she wouldn't tell howie, didn't let him read the e-mails, as you're a lawyer on this panel, how do you feel about that? >> you know, i'm concerned by it. it seems that when someone is being less than transparent, when there's som
in very delicate conversations with other countries u.n. and nato forces ran themselves through surrogates and other countries so that we don't have to pack a a 1.4 million of our citizens in engagements again and again so we don't have to do that, there's nothing from the right wing saying you know what? i have problems with the domestic policies of this president or whatever but i'm not going to open up the door where i'm going to call him a muslim. i'm not going to do that and make it both a pejorative and or accusatory. >> don't you think this is online with the inherent lack of disrespect they seem to have for this president? >> lack of respect. >> lack of respect. disrespect or lack of respect. >> hal: i think there's two reasons why they have a lack of respect. one is they can't have respect for him and then get re-elected later in their mind. >> it is worse now than it's ever been with any other democratic president. >> hal: i agree. there is something knee-jerk and guttural about it. if you look at their -- their vilification of bill clinton, we forget because the economy -- we di
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